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September 22, 2008 6:36 pm

Ignorance is a Bliss? Half-knowledge? complete awareness?

Filed under: Communication,Kannada,Medical,People,Personal,Quotes — ramsblog @ 6:36 pm

Vani posted about her experience related to not having enough information [wise? or otherwise?]  and the thought process around it. It was a great topic that made me write so much into comment section there and turned out a long story that I thought might not be appropriate as a comment post. And here is what I typed in. You may have to read Vani’s post first to get the context. 

“Ignorance is a Bliss” well “it is still a bliss

I was at the toastmaster gathering last Thursday, some one came up with this proverb to talk about. “A little learning is a dangerous thing (One should have full knowledge, rather than spreading incomplete information)” Although it may sound a little contrary but was along the same lines.

I believe it depends on how we comprehend the half knowledge, whether towards expand the understanding or towards make decisions out of it.

I have off late heard that the rule of thumb ” When in doubt, Ask!”

ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಇನ್ನೊಂದು ಗಾದೆ ಇದೆ  “ಪೂರ್ತಿ ಗೊತ್ತಿರೋವ್ರ ಬಳಿ ಮಾತನಾಡಬಹುದು, ಏನು ಗೊತ್ತಿಲದವರ ಬಳಿ ಮಾತನಾಡಬಹುದು, ಆದರೆ ಅರ್ದಂಬರ್ದ ತಿಳಿದಿರುವವರ ಬಳಿ ಮಾತಾಡೋದು ಕಷ್ಟ!” (translation:  a proverb in Kannada: we can talk to people who are either completely aware or completely unaware, but it is hard to talk to people who have incomplete information) 

Another related Kannada proverb “ತುಂಬಿದ ಕೊಡ ತುಳುಕುವುದಿಲ್ಲ ” –> khaali koda, thumbidha koda are fine but a partially filled pot is noisy! :)

well again, i think it is contextual, in my observation.  :)

back to “Ignorance is bliss” –> my favorite example for this is daily News (TV/newspaper/..) about local crime. Not until  we hear something wrong about the area that we would realize to be cautious to go around at nights, but once we hear anything about thefts, or some sort, the fear factor sets in our mind. Though one is ok to go around at nights, the other people around instill more of these telling more stories and make other person feel guilty or afraid to go around again.

My recent experience that made me scary until I went to a nerve specialist: Last winter, I felt a weakness in my left arm. I started to convince myself to say “it is nothing but will be ok”, just like the way you did. A few days later, we called up a nurse line, and according to her explanation upon a series of question and answer session, she said, “You would probably have to see the doctor in next few hours, it could be the symptoms for stroke” –> note, this was when talked to a professional. I was sure afraid, but still made a doctor appointment 2 days later. Went to an MRI of my shoulder; later went to a Nerve Specialist. He conducted several nerve compression tests (approx about $600) and asked me to make another appointment for reports. and the Resuts were for me to go to a physical therapist since there was a minor shoulder strain and it was recovering. I went for a physical therapy for few weeks, it got better. –> so it is all contextual, “at times even having fairly enough knowledge is also not enough“.

That reminds me of a Kannada song “ಹೇಳಿದ್ದು ಸುಳ್ಳಾಗಬಹುದು, ನೋಡಿದ್ದು ಸುಳ್ಳಾಗಬಹುದು, ನಿಧಾನಿಸಿ ಯೋಚಿಸಿದಾಗ ನಿಜವು ತಿಳಿವುದು…” [haeLidhdhu suLLaagabahudhu, nOdidhdhu suLLaagabahudhu, nidhaanisi yochisidhaaga nijavu thiLivudhu…] I don’t remember the name of the movie…

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2 Comments »

  1. one thing –
    US nalli test maadsokke ondu sala, consultation ge ondu sala, bere doctors ge refer maadidaaga innondu sala.. doctora hattira hodre oLLe india dalli court meTTilu hattida haage:-) 600$ for just that?

    haLiddu suLLaagabahudu is from the movie Rama Lakshmana I think, .. the tiger in the movie is named raama r lakshmana.. and this song is sung by the girl to that blind boy

    Comment by Veena — September 25, 2008 8:24 am @ 8:24 am | Reply

  2. @Veena
    ayyoo! It was a lengthy procedure with different machines and various types of needles and resonant forks. about doctor office suththOdhu: thats right, initial visit obbara hathra, maththe innondu referal, so referal doctor/specialist hathra ondhu consultation visittu, maththe test-ge innondhu visittu, maththe follow up-ge innondhu visittu. prathiyondhu visittu costs money. ;) unfortunate that ondhE surgery 6varshadhalli muuru sarthi maadiskondidheeni and the same doctor.
    in general, doctorsu, lawyersu, thumbaa complicateddu…

    I haven’t watched that movie, but I only rememeber watching the song, and that was about a baby, mungusi , a snake and a baby’s mother. Where she thinks mungusi had killed the baby seeing the blood stains on its mouth, and kills him, whereas he had actually killed the snake who approached the cradle, while baby’s mother was away.

    Comment by Ram — September 25, 2008 12:36 pm @ 12:36 pm | Reply


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